ISN’T HHO Water 4 gas IMPOSSIBLE? Over Unity? or Perpetual Motion? A violation of Thermodynamics' 2nd law?
Hybrid HHO/gas systems are not over unity or “getting more out than you put in”. What the HHO systems do is provide a better combustion environment for gasoline, like some fuel additives do. The HHO hydrogen is simply a fuel additive, even more, a catalyst. Does it take more energy to make the HHO hydrogen than the energy you get out (from burning the hydrogen produced)? Of course! If that were not true, we’d be in violation of the 2nd law of Thermodynamics (and over unity). Then what can be said about HHO/gasoline cars? What improvements are people seeing, if any?
No one has all the answers but here is what can be said. The production of hydrogen via electrolysis in an HHO automobile takes energy away from the engine. This energy loss is in the form of burning fuel to run the engine which feeds the battery/ alternator (the HHO electrical power source). The hydrogen produced by this electrolysis is then used as a catalyst for improved, more complete, gasoline combustion. In a properly tuned HHO system, the HHO produced improves the gas combustion enough to “pay for itself”, i.e. overcome its losses, and then some.
Anecdotal reports indicate that instead of the typical 15:1 air to gas mix, an HHO/gas hybrid could improve to as high as 20:1 or 25:1. You are simply enabling a cleaner, more complete gasoline burn, thus less gasoline is needed per stroke and better gas mileage is the result plus cleaner emissions (less pollution, less carbon in the air).
Even though this may appear to be a sound argument for HHO systems, the scientific studies on HHO/Gas hybrids are not available as of this writing so your pursuit of an HHO/gas hybrid vehicle to reduce oil/gas dependence is a bit of a trial-and-error endeavor (like everything else in life). Word of mouth anecdotal “evidence” (with little or no data and no repeatable results) provides no “proof” that HHO saves any gasoline at all.
There are reasons why evidence is so hard to come by:
1) Modern cars have electronic controls and pollutant sensors that tend to misreport gas mileage and force the engine off-nominal when using a lean mix or supplemented fuels.
2) The conversion losses alone for the HHO process would be hard to overcome (gas to electricity to hydrogen to combustion/mechanical propulsion)
3) Even if there is a savings, burning a hotter combustion in the cylinder could cause parts to wear out sooner.
4) When an HHO unit is installed, filters are replaced and other tuning is done which improves gas mileage anyway, affecting actual results.
Like any scientific endeavor, what is needed is a series of repeatable, double-blind, controlled scientific tests. More on that in our brief entitled “HHO/Gas Hybrid Test Program Summary”.
Even with these issues, some experimenters and early adopters are taking all this into consideration as they press on to push back the frontier of ignorance.
OUTSTANDING HHO/Gas HYBRID QUESTIONS:
1) How much gasoline does it take to run the electrolysis process? And how much hydrogen is produced?
2) How much extra energy is released in a gas/hydrogen burn verses a gas only burn? (It must be more than a hydrogen only burn plus a gas only burn for the HHO/gas hybrid to work. Plus this extra burn must be enough to drive the electrolysis process.)
3) Unleaded fuel has nnn BTU per cubic foot? Hydrogen has mmm BTU per cubic foot? In today’s vehicles the gas burn is only X% efficient, leaving Z BTUs on the table (in the form of exhaust gases, pollutants, and heat). If the Hydrogen introduced can recover most of those Z BTUs, then the efficiency gain for the HHO/Gas burn could be close to 100-X% (excluding losses).
SIMPLIFIED EXAMPLE: Assume that your 20 MPG vehicle’s gas-only burn is 60% efficient. Assume it takes away another 10% to produce the hydrogen via electrolysis. Assume the introduced hydrogen only supplies back 5% on it’s own but, as a catalyst, it releases another 25% from the gas burn resulting in a 20% gain from 60% with gas-only to 80% with HHO/Gas (60-10+5+25). Your MPG could jump from 20 to 24 and you reduce your polluting emission by more than 20%. For an average driver, this is a reduction of half a ton of CO2 every year!
